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title: VTM Boston Interview Video
teaser:
tags: news,web
author: Matt Jankowski
published_on: 2009-03-05
---

When we were at the [VOICES THAT MATTER Professional Ruby
Conference](http://www.voicesthatmatter.com/ruby2008/) in November, we sat down
and did a two-part interview for use in promotional materials for next year's
conference, and for our own amusement.  It took a while for us to get our hands
on this, but here's the second of the interviews from that day.

The video features [Dan Croak](http://www.thoughtbot.com/about/people#dcroak)
(Developer), [Chad Pytel](http://www.thoughtbot.com/about/people#cpytel) (CEO),
[Matt Jankowski](http://www.thoughtbot.com/about/people#mjankowski) (COO) and
[Tammer Saleh](http://www.thoughtbot.com/about/people#tsaleh) (Developer)
talking about Ruby, Rails, thoughtbot, TDD, our products, our process, our
history, and more.

## Interview

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## Timeline

* 0:00 - Design Driven Development, TDD process
* 4:00 - What else have we tried?
* 7:00 - User stories and tests
* 8:30 - Pair programming
* 11:00 - Open source plugins
* 14:30 - Product ideas
* 17:15 - Promoting OSS, hosting your own tools, paying for services
* 19:25 - Products vs consulting vs training, how did we start out?
* 21:00 - How we found ourselves while backpacking in Europe
* 21:55 - What is Kickstart
* 23:45 - Growth and promotion
* 25:18 - Chad mentions the blog and we all eat lunch instead of continuing the
  interview

## The future of video production in a post modern world

If anyone is in or around the Boston area, and is either an aspiring amateur
film maker, a film student in college, interested in films, the owner of a bunch
of digital video editing equipment, a big fan of 24, willing to act like a film
student, etc - please get in touch with us.  We're looking to produce some
promotional materials (and some funny materials) that require more video
equipment and knowledge than we have in house.